Interview with Mark Bray, Part 2, Horizontalism and Anarchism

Mark Bray

The second part of our interview and discussion with historian and author Mark Bray, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook and Translating Anarchy on the Occupy movement. The episode begins with an update on our “Grow Our Roots” fundraiser followed by hosts Markie and Pedro discussing listener feedback.

This show introduces our new segment “Forgotten Histories,” which introduces the personal histories of lesser known revolutionary figures. This first segment features Mexican anarchist, feminist, and PLM organizer, Elisa Acuña Rossetti.

In this portion of the interview Mark Bray discusses the differences between horizontalism and anarchism, looking critically at movements transitioning into electoral politics. He also discusses two different approaches of defining anarchism, one based on a historical approach and another based on a myth generated by the anarchist movement itself. 

Related links:

Horizontalism: Anarchism, Power and the State, Blackrosefed.org, 2018.

Mark Bray on Revolutionary Left Radio

Anarchist Education and the Modern School: A Francisco Ferrer Reader, PM Press, 2018.

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3 comments on Interview with Mark Bray, Part 2, Horizontalism and Anarchism

  1. Gerard P says:

    Hi! I just found out about this podcast and I really enjoyed it. I became a little scared when you pointed out Barcelona en comú and Podemos for being horizontal examples as, myself being an anarchist from Barcelona, they are some of the worst hypocrites that there is in today’s politics. They literally stand for nothing as they claim to be leftists, but have just agreed to become mayors with the votes of the most fascist right instead of the more left-leaning parties because these are independentists. They send the police to squatters, oppresses the migrants and works for the richs everytime they can. Anyways, as you very well explained, any organization that enters institutions becomes institutionalised and part of the problem.

    Thanks for everything!

    Visca l’anarquia.

  2. Jehu says:

    If Occupy was alone in failing, why it failed would be a matter of more significance. But the fact is Occupy is not alone: every revolutionary political movement since the Paris Commune has failed or run into a dead end. And this is true no matter its ideological bent — Marxist, anarchist, you name it. No one wants to recognize this or ask why political revolution has suffered a 100% failure rate. This is a big problem since most people who consider themselves radicals expect the new society to result from a revolutionary politics. What is the alternative to revolutionary politics? No one has any.

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